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If you haven't listened to this show you should if you like politics. It is a roundtable discussion with the left, right, center, and Huffington discussing the political news of the week. It is totally great and usually pretty funny. Tony Blankley, the conservative, often says things that make me want to throw things and vomit but it is still fun.
A response to a question from
In the early days of the United States, every state was designated a certain number of delegates to the electoral college. The number of delegates a state was given was based on the population so that they were distributed proportionally. When citizens (at the time, white, male landowners) voted in the Presidential Primary, they would not actually be voting for a candidate, they would be voting for one of the delegates that supported the candidate they chose. So, the people voting would get together and caucus or later actually cast ballots. For delegates. Not candidates.
After each state had its Primary, all of the delegates would attend the party national convention. At the convention is where the real voting took place. The idea was that the candidate who had the most delegates at the convention would be the one the party nominated to run for president. But, delegates also had a little bit of leeway. They could change their votes and often these conventions could get quite heated.
Ultimately, it just meant that the popular vote was not always the way that the candidates were chosen. If the votes of the delegates diverged from the popular vote, then the delegates decided the candidate not the people.
Then we go to the national general election where the president was actually elected. Again, people would "cast a vote" for a candidate but again, they would really be voting for delegates in the electoral college. The electoral college would then get together and the number of members of the electoral college each candidate got would determine who won the presidency. Again, not the popular vote. Typically, the electoral college votes matched the popular vote but not always. Such as the 2000 presidential election where Al Gore won the popular vote but the Secretary of State of Florida (a Bush family friend) decided the state's very close election was in favor of Bush and the Supreme Court agreed.
In the 19th century, this form of voting made sense. Votes were tallied by hand, communication between states took a long time because it had to be delivered by hand and of course there weren't cars or planes or the internet. So, for a large nation with lots of states it made sense to do things this way. Well, since the beginning of the 20th century, or at least the mid-20th century, this does not make sense any more. Communication is instant and there is no reason to not have the popular vote stand as, well, the will of the people.
For some odd reason we have not abolished the electoral college and moved to a national primary election day where everyone votes on their party's candidate the same day and the person who get the most votes wins. Then that person runs against the other party's person and the popular vote again determines the winner. There are also these people called "Super-delegates" who are party big wigs in each state who have a vote as a delegate to the party convention that weighs as much as the other delegates'. The other delegates, however, represent a proportion of the population of the state who actually voted for someone. These "Super-delegates" do not. One person, a shitload of votes. Their voice counts more that the rest of us. Pretty much that disenfranchises a whole bunch of people. In the land of the free and all that.
Now, I am not so naive as to think that one person, one vote is actually the way this thing works. The electoral college keeps party influence in the hands of entrenched, establishment interests and you have to be absurdly wealthy or sell yourself to the absurdly wealthy to even get a voice in this thing. The people get to choose between the candidates that the establishment decides to allow to run. None of these people are the Puppet Master but the forces at work all tend to favor establishment candidates. I am trying to make myself sound less like a conspiracy theorist.
I hope this makes sense. I think it is pretty accurate, although it has been a while since I had a government class. Some of the details might be a little funky but the general idea is right. If anyone has corrections, please let me know. I will try to look this up later and make sure it is accurate.
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